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		<title>By: DrChocolate</title>
		<link>http://www.lukestay.com/articles/review-new-moon-by-drchocolate.html/comment-page-1#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>DrChocolate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be taking this rather personally Luke.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it came across as that&#039;s the ONLY reason people hate Twilight, that was not my intention. I realize there are those out there with better reasons for hating these books and movies, yourself included. But I think you have to acknowledge that there is a lot of hate directed at it because of it&#039;s fan base. I realize this isn&#039;t the only reason, but I firmly believe it&#039;s a large reason. Nor was this a chastisement but rather an observation of those I&#039;ve encountered who rant against Twilight because said rant usually includes quite a few sexist, misogynistic remarks about &quot;lonely fat girls&quot; and &quot;unfulfilled soccer moms.&quot; If you notice my review does say its vapid, empty and frothy but ultimately still somewhat entertaining. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I too have no regard for the obsessed of this series and find the fixation on Edward (who actually is like 115 or something so he&#039;s not pre-pubescent, per se) and Jacob (actually a teenager) extremely creepy - hence when I said it speaks to a larger societal ill. And seriously don&#039;t ignore Hollywood and societies obsession with young and young looking female stars. But anothers obsession alone shouldn&#039;t rule out viewership - if it does, toss out your Star Wars laserdiscs and laser disc player that you got solely to watch them. Toss them out cause there are some creepy ass dudes out there who think that shiz is for real. Jedi is an actual religion to some. I also know you well enough to know you&#039;re partially playing devils advocate to my seemingly man-card revoking argument as well as stating your opinion, and I&#039;m sure there is some payback here for the whole Hitch thing. (the Leo comment wasn&#039;t directed at you either - I just know a lot of guys who flip-flopped on that rather recently).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the end, I stand by my argument, but did not mean it to sound preachy. A fair amount of guys instantly ex out a lot of girl oriented material - the term &quot;chick flick&quot; alone carries major negative connotations - solely because its girl oriented. I think this maybe a rather extreme, polarizing case of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be taking this rather personally Luke.</p>
<p>If it came across as that&#39;s the ONLY reason people hate Twilight, that was not my intention. I realize there are those out there with better reasons for hating these books and movies, yourself included. But I think you have to acknowledge that there is a lot of hate directed at it because of it&#39;s fan base. I realize this isn&#39;t the only reason, but I firmly believe it&#39;s a large reason. Nor was this a chastisement but rather an observation of those I&#39;ve encountered who rant against Twilight because said rant usually includes quite a few sexist, misogynistic remarks about &#8220;lonely fat girls&#8221; and &#8220;unfulfilled soccer moms.&#8221; If you notice my review does say its vapid, empty and frothy but ultimately still somewhat entertaining. </p>
<p>I too have no regard for the obsessed of this series and find the fixation on Edward (who actually is like 115 or something so he&#39;s not pre-pubescent, per se) and Jacob (actually a teenager) extremely creepy &#8211; hence when I said it speaks to a larger societal ill. And seriously don&#39;t ignore Hollywood and societies obsession with young and young looking female stars. But anothers obsession alone shouldn&#39;t rule out viewership &#8211; if it does, toss out your Star Wars laserdiscs and laser disc player that you got solely to watch them. Toss them out cause there are some creepy ass dudes out there who think that shiz is for real. Jedi is an actual religion to some. I also know you well enough to know you&#39;re partially playing devils advocate to my seemingly man-card revoking argument as well as stating your opinion, and I&#39;m sure there is some payback here for the whole Hitch thing. (the Leo comment wasn&#39;t directed at you either &#8211; I just know a lot of guys who flip-flopped on that rather recently).</p>
<p>In the end, I stand by my argument, but did not mean it to sound preachy. A fair amount of guys instantly ex out a lot of girl oriented material &#8211; the term &#8220;chick flick&#8221; alone carries major negative connotations &#8211; solely because its girl oriented. I think this maybe a rather extreme, polarizing case of that.</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook User</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I dismiss the likes of Lost, Halo, and the majority of comic book movies and only recently decided Star Wars wasn&#039;t quite as ridiculous as I thought.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I will say the reason I don&#039;t read or participate in things like Dan Brown books, Twilight or Cafe Rio is because I don&#039;t like to be one of the herd. It&#039;s just too predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I dismiss the likes of Lost, Halo, and the majority of comic book movies and only recently decided Star Wars wasn&#39;t quite as ridiculous as I thought.</p>
<p>But I will say the reason I don&#39;t read or participate in things like Dan Brown books, Twilight or Cafe Rio is because I don&#39;t like to be one of the herd. It&#39;s just too predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Stay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Stay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 07:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mis-interpreted, at the very least, my hate for this franchise. It has nothing to do with the audience and everything to do with simplistic, disturbingly passionate writing that reads like a pulpy romance with Fabio on the cover. I had the same problem with Harry Potter. I see nothing wrong with pre-pubescent girls (and even boys) reading this smut, but these grown women I see posting status messages on Facebook about how dreamy a pre-pubescent fictional character is and what they did with said fictional character in their dreams last night should be ashamed of themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What would these same women say about grown men drooling over Miley Cyrus or even Taylor Swift? It&#039;s just as disgusting when the child being drooled over is fictional. I have no hate for women that just read these books, it&#039;s just as mind-numbing as many of the video games I play, but when they start talking about these characters as if they&#039;re real, I break out the hate stick and start hunting them down like the Seniors in Dazed and confused.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as Leonardo DiCaprio goes, my hate for him has nothing to do with the throngs of girls and now women that fall for him and everything to do with the fact that I think he&#039;s an over-rated actor. He can&#039;t do an accent to save his life (he was horrible in Blood Diamond and worse in The Man in the Iron Mask) and the only roles he plays convincingly are the ones not far from his true self (see Catch Me if You Can). I didn&#039;t hate him in The Departed, but I did hate him in Gangs of New York, both directed by Scorsese and in both he was out-shined by his many co-stars. I hated Titanic for its weak, cliche story as well, not for its fans and followers. James Cameron makes beautiful, technically-sound movies, but behind all the flash and spectacle are boring, empty stories.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short, you have over-simplified and falsely analyzed at least one viewer&#039;s hate for this franchise and I think you may find the same for many of the Twilight-haters you chastise here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mis-interpreted, at the very least, my hate for this franchise. It has nothing to do with the audience and everything to do with simplistic, disturbingly passionate writing that reads like a pulpy romance with Fabio on the cover. I had the same problem with Harry Potter. I see nothing wrong with pre-pubescent girls (and even boys) reading this smut, but these grown women I see posting status messages on Facebook about how dreamy a pre-pubescent fictional character is and what they did with said fictional character in their dreams last night should be ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>What would these same women say about grown men drooling over Miley Cyrus or even Taylor Swift? It&#39;s just as disgusting when the child being drooled over is fictional. I have no hate for women that just read these books, it&#39;s just as mind-numbing as many of the video games I play, but when they start talking about these characters as if they&#39;re real, I break out the hate stick and start hunting them down like the Seniors in Dazed and confused.</p>
<p>As far as Leonardo DiCaprio goes, my hate for him has nothing to do with the throngs of girls and now women that fall for him and everything to do with the fact that I think he&#39;s an over-rated actor. He can&#39;t do an accent to save his life (he was horrible in Blood Diamond and worse in The Man in the Iron Mask) and the only roles he plays convincingly are the ones not far from his true self (see Catch Me if You Can). I didn&#39;t hate him in The Departed, but I did hate him in Gangs of New York, both directed by Scorsese and in both he was out-shined by his many co-stars. I hated Titanic for its weak, cliche story as well, not for its fans and followers. James Cameron makes beautiful, technically-sound movies, but behind all the flash and spectacle are boring, empty stories.</p>
<p>In short, you have over-simplified and falsely analyzed at least one viewer&#39;s hate for this franchise and I think you may find the same for many of the Twilight-haters you chastise here.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke Stay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Stay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mis-interpreted, at the very least, my hate for this franchise. It has nothing to do with the audience and everything to do with simplistic, disturbingly passionate writing that reads like a pulpy romance with Fabio on the cover. I had the same problem with Harry Potter. I see nothing wrong with pre-pubescent girls (and even boys) reading this smut, but these grown women I see posting status messages on Facebook about how dreamy a pre-pubescent fictional character is and what they did with said fictional character in their dreams last night should be ashamed of themselves.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What would these same women say about grown men drooling over Miley Cyrus or even Taylor Swift? It&#039;s just as disgusting when the child being drooled over is fictional. I have no hate for women that just read these books, it&#039;s just as mind-numbing as many of the video games I play, but when they start talking about these characters as if they&#039;re real, I break out the hate stick and start hunting them down like the Seniors in Dazed and confused.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as Leonardo DiCaprio goes, my hate for him has nothing to do with the throngs of girls and now women that fall for him and everything to do with the fact that I think he&#039;s an over-rated actor. He can&#039;t do an accent to save his life (he was horrible in Blood Diamond and worse in The Man in the Iron Mask) and the only roles he plays convincingly are the ones not far from his true self (see Catch Me if You Can). I didn&#039;t hate him in The Departed, but I did hate him in Gangs of New York, both directed by Scorsese and in both he was out-shined by his many co-stars. I hated Titanic for its weak, cliche story as well, not for its fans and followers. James Cameron makes beautiful, technically-sound movies, but behind all the flash and spectacle are boring, empty stories.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In short, you have over-simplified and falsely analyzed at least one viewer&#039;s hate for this franchise and I think you may find the same for many of the Twilight-haters you chastise here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mis-interpreted, at the very least, my hate for this franchise. It has nothing to do with the audience and everything to do with simplistic, disturbingly passionate writing that reads like a pulpy romance with Fabio on the cover. I had the same problem with Harry Potter. I see nothing wrong with pre-pubescent girls (and even boys) reading this smut, but these grown women I see posting status messages on Facebook about how dreamy a pre-pubescent fictional character is and what they did with said fictional character in their dreams last night should be ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>What would these same women say about grown men drooling over Miley Cyrus or even Taylor Swift? It&#39;s just as disgusting when the child being drooled over is fictional. I have no hate for women that just read these books, it&#39;s just as mind-numbing as many of the video games I play, but when they start talking about these characters as if they&#39;re real, I break out the hate stick and start hunting them down like the Seniors in Dazed and confused.</p>
<p>As far as Leonardo DiCaprio goes, my hate for him has nothing to do with the throngs of girls and now women that fall for him and everything to do with the fact that I think he&#39;s an over-rated actor. He can&#39;t do an accent to save his life (he was horrible in Blood Diamond and worse in The Man in the Iron Mask) and the only roles he plays convincingly are the ones not far from his true self (see Catch Me if You Can). I didn&#39;t hate him in The Departed, but I did hate him in Gangs of New York, both directed by Scorsese and in both he was out-shined by his many co-stars. I hated Titanic for its weak, cliche story as well, not for its fans and followers. James Cameron makes beautiful, technically-sound movies, but behind all the flash and spectacle are boring, empty stories.</p>
<p>In short, you have over-simplified and falsely analyzed at least one viewer&#39;s hate for this franchise and I think you may find the same for many of the Twilight-haters you chastise here.</p>
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